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I also ask that you continue to exercise restraint in your representation of the dispute and the issues involved. ICANNWiki's role is to provide accurate and relevant information to participants and stakeholders. It is not to represent or endorse a particular point of view, nor is it a forum to advertise for a particular side in disputes.
I also ask that you continue to exercise restraint in your representation of the dispute and the issues involved. ICANNWiki's role is to provide accurate and relevant information to participants and stakeholders. It is not to represent or endorse a particular point of view, nor is it a forum to advertise for a particular side in disputes.


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== From Joel ==
andrew
andrew


I have sent mail to andrew@icannwiki.org but it bounces. I have no idea if this page is public or private, but given the urgency I will just post a reply to this message here.  I hope that you get this in time. I have also emailed Ray King, fyi, if you want to see the attachments.
I have sent mail to andrew@icannwiki.org but it bounces. I have no idea if this page is public or private, but given the urgency I will just post a reply to this message here.  I hope that you get this in time. I have also emailed Ray King, fyi, if you want to see the attachments.


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email sent Dec 4, 2020:
email sent Dec 4, 2020:


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Letter being circulated today:
Letter being circulated today:
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Have you or anyone you know by chance been involved in talks to buy
Have you or anyone you know by chance been involved in talks to buy


.网站
.网站


If so you should know that we are involved in a dispute with Edmon Chung and the holding company for this TLD, which is Namesphere. (With DotAsia as majority partner)
If so you should know that we are involved in a dispute with Edmon Chung and the holding company for this TLD, which is Namesphere. (With DotAsia as majority partner)


Last year, Edmon surreptitiously sold for $0 (or gave away) the TLD .SPA, also belonging to Namesphere. He did this without the consent of his partners in Namesphere (which would be us).  
Last year, Edmon surreptitiously sold for $0 (or gave away) the TLD .SPA, also belonging to Namesphere. He did this without the consent of his partners in Namesphere (which would be us).  


He arranged a clandestine meeting of DotAsia on Sept 18, 2019 to approve the giveaway.
He arranged a clandestine meeting of DotAsia on Sept 18, 2019 to approve the giveaway.


https://www.dot.asia/dotasia-files/board/meeting-minutes/board/DotAsia-BoardMinutes-20190918_FINAL.pdf
https://www.dot.asia/dotasia-files/board/meeting-minutes/board/DotAsia-BoardMinutes-20190918_FINAL.pdf


 
Then had the ICANN contract sign SPA away on Sept 19, 2019 to a Malaysian company.  
 
Then had the ICANN contract sign SPA away on Sept 19, 2019 to a Malaysian company.  
 
 


https://www.icann.org/resources/agreement/spa-2019-09-19-en
https://www.icann.org/resources/agreement/spa-2019-09-19-en


We did not discover this until sometime in November, when he announced It on the DotAsia website.  Then ensuing lawsuit is here:
We did not discover this until sometime in November, when he announced It on the DotAsia website.  Then ensuing lawsuit is here:


http://domainincite.com/docs/SPA-Writ-of-Summons-(20201019).pdf
http://domainincite.com/docs/SPA-Writ-of-Summons-(20201019).pdf


We are also embroiled in another lawsuit with Edmon and DotAsia as they have refused to release our shares in Namesphere (despite having paid for our shares way back in 2012).
We are also embroiled in another lawsuit with Edmon and DotAsia as they have refused to release our shares in Namesphere (despite having paid for our shares way back in 2012).


Lastly, we are not the only company with this issue, there is also a $2M lawsuit in company naming DotAsia, Edmon Chung, and NS as defendants over BOX.
Lastly, we are not the only company with this issue, there is also a $2M lawsuit in company naming DotAsia, Edmon Chung, and NS as defendants over BOX.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cMWDZyAqYCon9YWC8lrkXwN63cpofGTC/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cMWDZyAqYCon9YWC8lrkXwN63cpofGTC/view


Should you buy this TLD until this litigation is settled, you may not be able to operate said TLD and be embroiled in some costly litigation (just like the "buyer" of SPA). I would appreciate you coordinating with us if such transaction is taking place.  
Should you buy this TLD until this litigation is settled, you may not be able to operate said TLD and be embroiled in some costly litigation (just like the "buyer" of SPA). I would appreciate you coordinating with us if such transaction is taking place.  


Apologies if  I have contacted you in error, but Edmon is arranging a Namesphere meeting In less than 24 hours, and as usual, we have not been invited to the table.
Apologies if  I have contacted you in error, but Edmon is arranging a Namesphere meeting In less than 24 hours, and as usual, we have not been invited to the table.


Regards
Regards
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+1-818-288-1383
+1-818-288-1383


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== Thoughts on editing ICANNWiki ==
Joel,
 
For ICANNWiki content, please keep in mind that the site strives to present information from a Neutral Point of View.  So the fact that there is a legal dispute is fine information to be shown on the site, but it must be presented fairly and without bias.  It should not be the opinion of just one side or the other.  If there is a result from the case, that is fine to document as well.  Secondly, it doesn’t make sense for content to be repeated on the site.  So copying the same exact information and pasting It to multiple page junks up the site and is unnecessary.  Hence we will remove duplicate content and try to show it where it makes most sense.  If there is contentious content, then it is best to cite outside credible references. I hope this makes sense.  [[User:Ray|Ray]] ([[User talk:Ray|talk]])

Revision as of 03:24, 4 December 2020

Thanks so much for taking an interest in the article about you, and I also really appreciate you not deleting the information wholesale. If you have any questions don't hesitate to email me via andrew[at]icannwiki.com, Best - Andrew

.spa TLD disputes[edit source]

Greetings, Joel. Thank you for the information you have contributed recently regarding disputes over the .spa TLD. It seems more appropriate to us that the information be housed primarily on the .spa page, as well as the pages of corporate parties (e.g., DotAsia) to the lawsuits, rather than repeated on the pages of each defendant. I have made edits to the .spa page to add the information you have provided. I have also removed the "Controversy" sections from the people profiles on the wiki.

I also ask that you continue to exercise restraint in your representation of the dispute and the issues involved. ICANNWiki's role is to provide accurate and relevant information to participants and stakeholders. It is not to represent or endorse a particular point of view, nor is it a forum to advertise for a particular side in disputes.

From Joel[edit source]

andrew

I have sent mail to andrew@icannwiki.org but it bounces. I have no idea if this page is public or private, but given the urgency I will just post a reply to this message here. I hope that you get this in time. I have also emailed Ray King, fyi, if you want to see the attachments.

email sent Dec 4, 2020:

Ray/Andrew

I just received a message via Icannwiki that you have modified the page of Edmon Chung to remove all references to the lawsuits that have been filed against him and his various companies. We will be restoring these references, and I would like to ask you to let these changes remain, and I will explain why.

Edmon Chung is engaged in many activities that I would consider fraudulent and nefarious.

Jason Chapnik of Intercap (Toronto) paid $1.5M for 50% share of BOX. 2 years after payment was released, Edmon had yet to issue his shares in BOX. I attach an irate email from Jason Chapnik as proof. They are now engaged in a $2M lawsuit in Toronto.

When I learned of this in early 2019 after talking to Chapnik, I too found out - to my surprise - that my shares in Namesphere had not been issued by Edmon. (I had invested in NS in 2012)! Dotph too has filed suit in HK. (Andrew has modified the Icannwiki entry to say that we had uploaded a draft and may not have yet filed the case. The actual writ of summons is attached).

Also to my surprise, Namesphere to this day does not have a bank account, despite receiving $1.5M from the sale of .Studio and about $270k from the sale of .NOW. All cash has been pocketed by DotAsia (again, unbeknowst to me), and in 2019 Edmon suddenly announces about $1.5M in expenses, (including salaries for himself, his wife, and his sister) and now saying that NS owes DotAsia money, even though NS has not had a single domain actually go live!


But the real reason I write you with urgency is that today as we speak, Edmon is trying hard to sell the last remaining assets of Namesphere. He intends to hold a "board meeting" today to authorize this sale. The buyers of this TLD (I do not know who they are) need to know that IF THEY PROCEED WITH THE SALE, they will be embroiled in a lawsuit and their investment will not be able to see the light of day.


I am NOT going to be publishing most of this material on ICANNwiki. These are just the key transgressions. There is so much more - electoral fraud, bloated travel expenses, privacy rules preventing the members and directors from viewing the receipts of DotAsia. All these are actually documented, but we have refrained from exposing any of these.

But I do ask that you NOT bury these facts (i.e. the existence of lawsuits vs Edmon), as the buyers of assets Edmon is unloading need to be warned.

Regards Joel Disini

Letter being circulated today:


Have you or anyone you know by chance been involved in talks to buy

.网站

If so you should know that we are involved in a dispute with Edmon Chung and the holding company for this TLD, which is Namesphere. (With DotAsia as majority partner)

Last year, Edmon surreptitiously sold for $0 (or gave away) the TLD .SPA, also belonging to Namesphere. He did this without the consent of his partners in Namesphere (which would be us).

He arranged a clandestine meeting of DotAsia on Sept 18, 2019 to approve the giveaway.

https://www.dot.asia/dotasia-files/board/meeting-minutes/board/DotAsia-BoardMinutes-20190918_FINAL.pdf

Then had the ICANN contract sign SPA away on Sept 19, 2019 to a Malaysian company.

https://www.icann.org/resources/agreement/spa-2019-09-19-en

We did not discover this until sometime in November, when he announced It on the DotAsia website. Then ensuing lawsuit is here:

http://domainincite.com/docs/SPA-Writ-of-Summons-(20201019).pdf

We are also embroiled in another lawsuit with Edmon and DotAsia as they have refused to release our shares in Namesphere (despite having paid for our shares way back in 2012).

Lastly, we are not the only company with this issue, there is also a $2M lawsuit in company naming DotAsia, Edmon Chung, and NS as defendants over BOX.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cMWDZyAqYCon9YWC8lrkXwN63cpofGTC/view

Should you buy this TLD until this litigation is settled, you may not be able to operate said TLD and be embroiled in some costly litigation (just like the "buyer" of SPA). I would appreciate you coordinating with us if such transaction is taking place.

Apologies if I have contacted you in error, but Edmon is arranging a Namesphere meeting In less than 24 hours, and as usual, we have not been invited to the table.

Regards

Joel Disini

CEO, Dotph

+1-818-288-1383

Thoughts on editing ICANNWiki[edit source]

Joel,

For ICANNWiki content, please keep in mind that the site strives to present information from a Neutral Point of View. So the fact that there is a legal dispute is fine information to be shown on the site, but it must be presented fairly and without bias. It should not be the opinion of just one side or the other. If there is a result from the case, that is fine to document as well. Secondly, it doesn’t make sense for content to be repeated on the site. So copying the same exact information and pasting It to multiple page junks up the site and is unnecessary. Hence we will remove duplicate content and try to show it where it makes most sense. If there is contentious content, then it is best to cite outside credible references. I hope this makes sense. Ray (talk)