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== Anand Vora ==
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So I like giving this example to, so I do partnerships to strategic partnerships.
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So when you're trying to explain what a registry is to say a nonprofit organization or an association,
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what I say is think of us as the manufacturer of Coca-Cola.
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If you want to buy a kind of Coke, Coca-Cola doesn't have stores, right?
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You have to go to Walmart, Safeway, 7-Eleven.
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We're similar.
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We manufacture.org domains, but you can't buy from us.
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We sell them through partners like GoDaddy, Namecheap, Spockbuns of the world.
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So our customers are the registrars and the resellers.
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Our users are the end users, nonprofit organizations, mission driven organizations,
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individual's profit with a purpose.
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So in that sense, that's the uniqueness of we sit here, but then we work across.
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We are one or two steps removed from the end user, but that's why it becomes a pretty tight knit community
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of working with partners, working with the channel.
== Bibek Silwal ==
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Where do you think universal acceptance adoption is happening most successfully?
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Well, we do have really good examples specifically in India. So the program I organized, I presented a
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case study. And so it's not just about the language, it's about the primary and secondary effects it
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has in all of the ecosystem, including the enhancements of socioeconomic or the creation of jobs,
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ownership of the content on internet and a lot of things. So, you know, as of now, people are not
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taking it very seriously, specifically the technical people, but, you know, in coming three or four
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years with this effort in the ICANN community, I think, you know, the universal acceptance rate
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would be higher in applications and websites.
== Brian King ==
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I think the biggest problem that ICANN needs to solve now,
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and has been the biggest problem they've needed to solve
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for the last five years and one month or so, is who is.
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And you can hear it called registration data.
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We worked on a representative IP constituency on the EPDP,
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which worked for three or four years straight
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on trying to solve the issue of how to access who is data,
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how to collect, store, process, and then disclose
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who is data to IP owners, law enforcement,
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in a way that respected, I might say,
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didn't violate the rights of the data subjects
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or the domain name registrants,
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but really that respected those rights
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and ensured that those rights were maintained.
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And it didn't go well, I'll be candid with you.
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It was hard work.
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There were a lot of interests
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that were working across purposes in the EPDP.
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And I regret, maybe I even lament the fact
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that we didn't get it done.
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And now the work kind of sits with ICANN,
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the organization and the board to do some things.
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They're doing some studies and some pilot programs
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to try to get more information about possible ways
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that it could work going forward.
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So yes, the EPDP group that I was a part of
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passed some policy recommendations.
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Most of them, at least about half of them
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didn't have consensus within the groups.
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I don't know how they got sent to the ICANN board,
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but the board doesn't know what to do
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with those recommendations.
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So they came up with this system as kind of a skin
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in like the software technology sense of a platform
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that they want to try out and see if it works,
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a voluntary kind of request the data
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and let the registrar figure out
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if they're going to provide the data within the system
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kind of framework.
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But in my opinion, if that's going to work,
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it needs a lot more policy requirements around it
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and safeguards and things that it doesn't have.
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So we're going to encourage people to use it.
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It's a good, I'm glad that ICANN's doing something
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trying this as a pilot.
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My concern is that we don't know what data
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it's going to generate or how the board's going to
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take that data, how that data is going to inform
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what the board decides to do.
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So I'm a little skeptical about, if it's a success,
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then we don't get to go come up with a policy
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that is better.
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And if it fails, my concern is that,
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well, they're going to say,
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this type of system isn't going to be successful,
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so let's not build one.
== Claire Craig ==
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So for us in the Caribbean particularly, we have a different model because if you look at the US, it's a commercial model for them because it is a large nation and there are lots of people.
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But we have small nations and Internet service providers are very competitive and because we have small nations, most of our Internet providers transfer their data through Miami.
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So it means that for a small country, let's say like Trinidad and Tobago, if you are in Trinidad with me and I am talking to you, my data has to go to Miami to be transferred to you.
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That becomes a very expensive proposition. So what I'm trying to do is really convince governments and other stakeholders of the importance of collaborating and having an Internet exchange point in the country because if you transit via the Internet exchange point, it's peering and it's settlement free data.
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So the exciting thing about it is that you're really doing things for the end users and for the citizens and residents of the country and lowering the cost of doing business on the Internet. So that's it in a nutshell.
== David Morar ==
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The potential biggest reason for that is that I think in the US, a lot of folks are more geared towards a status quo perspective in terms of legislation, right, like, ah, let's not let's kind of keep government out of it.
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And we can deal with it or whatever.
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And also more of an entrepreneurial slash corporatist view of things, whereas in the EU, you know, historically, most of those countries have had strong governments or have had a perspective that said, well, you know, the things should be regulated.
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And that's one, the second reason is in the EU, it's much easier to put up legislation.
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It's much easier to pass it. It's complicated. It's long. It's very sort of like admin heavy. It's very bureaucratic, but there's a path for it. And you and, you know, politics are involved, obviously, but it's a lot more a thing of process, whereas in the United States process is important, but it's all of its politics.
== Emily Taylor ==
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it's understandable that, say, the DNS industry wants to draw bright lines around like,
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we don't do this, we do do that. In reality, the experiences are much more mushy one.
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And so the DNS will be the carrier for a lot of things that you could argue are content related
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issues. But actually, so we're doing some research on, you know, why consumers fall for link based
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scans. And actually, the domain name plays a big part in that, you know, because it's part when
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you're looking for what we call, you know, you're in a hurry, you're living your life. There's this
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sort of concept of selective scrutiny that you, you're sort of just looking for clues, you don't
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want to get into it. But you're looking for clues about whether something's legit, and actually
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names are really important in that. And so yes, although the domain name itself might be quite
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innocent, it might be happening at different levels, or that the whole thing might be happening at a
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hosting level at the application layer. Actually, the domain name is involved. It doesn't mean that
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it's the complete solution. But I feel like the cutting off is useful to a certain extent. But
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if it's cutting you off from the policy conversation, then you're going to end up with really stupid
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policy answers that don't understand. And you don't get the chance to engage in those policy
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solutions, it gets very sledgehammer type thing. So obviously a comforting narrative for those
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within ICANN. But the risk of it is that the conversation just goes around you. And you're
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not involved in it, because you're just, you're actually like, you're king canute in the waves,
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commanding the waves to go back. And actually, you've developed this way of thinking and talking
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to each other, which makes perfect sense to each other. And we all agree. But actually, nobody,
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if you took a consumer into that environment, they'd be like, what's wrong with you? So it
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doesn't make it is completely disconnected with from the consumer's experience. And I think that's
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a problem. And it's actually a problem for the ICANN process, as much as the situation itself.
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Because actually, a lot of other government led organizations are really keen to take up the
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slack.
== Emmanuel Vitus ==
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But when you take the non-commercial stakeholder group,
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now most of them are volunteers,
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not like the BC or the GAC,
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where people are actually doing that as their daily job.
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And I mean, they job that pay their bills
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and those kind of thing.
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So they actually put much more effort into it.
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And they have the resources,
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like the business community has the resources,
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people are their lawyers for their organizations
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and those kind of things.
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So they represent an interest
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that actually really matches their profession as well.
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So it's much more easier for them.
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But if you take the non-commercial stakeholder group,
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usually people are volunteers and the volunteer fatigue,
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especially during the COVID,
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we felt this because spending hours of meeting,
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let me give a basic example.
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Like today I finished the ideal meeting before I was sleeping
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for most of the meeting before the call came in,
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but that call was 90 minutes call.
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And that call I've been actually following
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that EPDP for a year and two months now.
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So every week I have to spend at least that 90 minutes
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before you later digest everything,
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get back to your stakeholder group.
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So, well, if you don't have that interest in the topic
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or you don't have that volunteerism,
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I mean, you cannot, I mean, you cannot,
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let's be honest, if somebody is doing a daily job
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that pay his bills, he will not take 90 minutes.
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With, I mean, in the middle of the week,
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supports his work and work on, I mean, an EPDP
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and those kind of things.
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At the beginning, due to the huge number of volunteers,
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it was easy, but with COVID because during those days,
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let's say for example, the travel support was one of those,
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how do you call it, element that stimulates people
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to say that, oh, okay, at least it's like a gratitude
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to you for what you have been doing and those kind of things.
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But with COVID, I mean, the whole life has really,
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really changed, is now that a lot of people
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are coming back, because I don't know for the other groups,
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but for the, how do you call it?
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Non-commercial stakeholder group,
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what we do have is the CROP, which is a travel support
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that we use to allow community members who have been active.
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Maybe they are not at the leadership position,
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but they have been active into this whole policy work
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or the whole academician.
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We try it as much as possible to bring them
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to the meeting at least once in a year and those kind of things.
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So it's kind of a recognition that we do,
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that's the only recognition at the non-commercial stakeholder group.
== Lauren Tussey ==
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Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously interested in the next round and, and following that quite closely. When that came out, you know, in 2000, what was it 14, I was like the part of all of that and it was a huge, huge part of my job.
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So I'm, I'm interested to see how that pans out and what happens in the next round.
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You know, I'm kind of disappointed on the timeframe, like the timeline. I think everyone is, you know, we've done this before it's been over 10 years, or almost 10 years, and it'll be almost 12 years, you know, when they expect to have it come out and that's a long time.
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And I'm interested to understand, you know, what we're going to expect as far as the applications that are going to come in.
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I've seen all the brands that have that applied last time, and none of them were successful. I don't think any brand that was that had their TLD was successfully used it we've keep seeing brands that are letting them drop, you know, they don't want they
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don't want to continue with their application or they're they're letting the TLD drop so I'm interested to know.
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Are, are we going to see more brands, a lot of brands 10 years ago didn't even know that it was an option.
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And so are we going to see an influx of these. And then also with this web three stuff, you know, like how does that impact the applications and what can be submitted.
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I think ICANN has been very.
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It's been very blurry as far as what if they're going to allow the same applications for the four names that have already been registered in what three to my names.
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There's like what about this conflict and this between that.
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The other thing, you know, that I'm interested in is fraud. I know that sounds weird but as registrars I've seen an uptick in fraud and it's something that I try to talk about with other registrars and they all seem to have the same problems as we do,
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you know, fraud is, is getting worse we're seeing more account takeovers, we're seeing some issues with, you know, testing cards and things like that. And I would love to be able to talk more with different registrars and see like how can we come up with a better
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solution that we can all, you know, how can we maybe exchange ideas and what's working what's not.
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I don't think I'm the we're the only ones that are having these issues so usually it comes they come together right somebody purchases a domain name uses stolen credit card and then they use that domain name to do abusive things.
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And then, you know, eventually, the charge is disputed, the domain gets suspended, and it's a lot of time and resources and money, you know, and it's very.
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It's increasing in the industry. And we've also seen an increase in account takeovers where somehow somebody got someone's username and password somewhere else and then they start testing it on different registrars websites and they see if they can get into these
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accounts and then they start making purchases and things like that that are all fraudulent.
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So, that's what I mean with fraud not necessarily just like abuse but, you know, fraudulent fraudulent charges, I guess.
== Mariana Marinho ==
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I think it's important to know that this is not a project, it's not an ICANN only initiative,
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you know, it's really like bringing together partners to advance the internet and expand
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the internet in Africa. So we were just like, each project, you know, we have different
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stakeholders involved and different partners and I think that's what
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it's exciting about it, you know, because like our impact is much greater than ICANN's only impact
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and really like for us as a group really trying to move the needle, you know, and
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make a positive impact and but like I think this program also this like the coalition work
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has always also the way I see it being in a different way of approaching projects in ICANN
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and we're working much more collaborative within like our different functions, you know,
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because everything that we do it's not only psych projects that would be, oh, our ENIT
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engineering and information technology team is putting ICANN, it's like putting the MRS
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in like, you know, infrastructure somewhere and it's like it usually like involves the
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African engagement team or the Middle Eastern engagement team and but like now we're also
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working like with COMS and like bringing other people to really raise the profile, you know, and
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and like make sure that that initiative is disseminating in a different way that it's like
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beyond the ICANN regular communication channels but like for now it's like this is like the first
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coalition of this kind that ICANN is really leading, you know, like leading in a way that
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is like putting the seed money, it's the seed resources that we're like, okay, we think we see
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a void here, you know, it's like we see that it's opportunity for coordination and collaboration
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within this sphere, let's like put together Secretariat, you know, and resources and like work
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with our stakeholders to see what we can accomplish and we are going to be doing that for
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the next like two years and that's a point also to reassess, it's like is everyone else
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seeing value on this, you know, it's like and if it is, let's continue to work with partners on that
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but it's not the idea that this is something that ICANN will do regardless of the outcome,
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you know, we really need to see our partners coming on board and
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expanding and we hope to be, we're going to be exploring if it makes sense to expand this
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for to other regiments as well.
== Natalia Filina ==
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As Secretary, so I'm helping a chair of URALO, it's European ICAN region.
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We are caring about bringing an interest of end users to policy development persons of ICAN.
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And we are caring about connections with some organizations and individual members in European region.
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So we try to gather information about activities.
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We are asking about feedback and input for policy questions.
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And we do a lot of outreach engagement work, many, many capacity building work, etc.
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I try to help, don't disturb my URALO chair.
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And I help build this very difficult construction of our relationship.
== Olof Nordling ==
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They were all the same, but I think that what happened during the years was that we were seriously understaffed at the very beginning.
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So those were the hectic, hectic, hectic meetings.
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Doesn't mean they weren't fun, but it was stretching it and a lot of running around and a lot of...
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Well, we got told off as a group and as individuals by the community for not being able to cope.
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And of course that was addressed, which makes it so that at the end of the final years,
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that I attended too, there was a lot smoother sailing, if I can say so, and a lot of better understanding
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because there was more time to share and have discussions with others
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without having to run to and fro between various meetings which you couldn't follow really in the proper way as it was in the very beginning.
== Phillip Marano ==
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When people ask me because like, you know, after 10 years or so, you tend to get a little jaded and people are like, well, how do you still go?
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And my consistent answer is to basically protect the UDRP. It's the uniform domain name dispute resolution policy.
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I use it in my day to day job to take down abusive domain names and I'm a panelist at the World Intellectual Property Organization, so I help decide those disputes.
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And there's, you know, really not that many of us left. I feel like if we were all to just pack it in and say, oh, we're not getting anything done here.
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That policy would very quickly suffer and then, you know, it's currently one of the most effective tools we have and for that to go away would be a real shame so stick around to help protect that.
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I was going to say recently, but it was several years ago at this point where it was opened up for a policy review and you had positions, very extreme positions in that working group that basically said, we don't need this anymore.
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I mean, most reasonable people said, yeah, it's working well, like we shouldn't change a lot, blah, blah, blah, but there were a few that said, yeah, we hate this thing, let's get rid of it.
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So you need to counterbalance, you need to be present to counterbalance voices like that.
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== Amr Elsadr ==
== Amr Elsadr ==