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I want to join the team for icann wiki are in the Indonesian. I can offers for some people to learn how to use wiki. Can you give me a bureaucrat? :) thanks [[User:Mbrt|Mbrt]] ([[User talk:Mbrt|talk]]) 08:11, 15 October 2016 (PDT)
I want to join the team for icann wiki are in the Indonesian. I can offers for some people to learn how to use wiki. Can you give me a bureaucrat? :) thanks [[User:Mbrt|Mbrt]] ([[User talk:Mbrt|talk]]) 08:11, 15 October 2016 (PDT)
== Who is online? ==
What about a display of this on the front page of the Community portal?
* {{:Special:WhosOnline}}
Which would require to install [[mw:Extension:WhosOnline]]...
--[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 05:54, 5 February 2017 (PST)
I'm not entirely convinced this is a needed addition to our site. What is the value of this extension? [[User:Jackie Treiber|Jackie Treiber]] ([[User talk:Jackie Treiber|talk]])
:I would not call it needed, rather useful. Obviously this wiki is not one of those where the daily edit-count is very high. There are prolonged periods when nobody is editing anything at all. But it is likely that people are reading the wiki. At least we do hope, it is an interesting read for many. Without any visible indicator that something is going on, one could think, it is a dead, closed or abandoned wiki which would be in sharp contrast to ICANN-related matters in general. This extension does not only show accounts of people who are editing. For that there would be [[Special:ActiveUsers]] a list of accounts from which edits came in the last 30 days. WhosOnline shows merely who was logged in in the last hour. One can configure if IP (not logged in readers) will be shown as well. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 11:55, 5 February 2017 (PST)
::I understand where you are coming from, but I do not think this is a feature that we will add to the wiki. I would prefer to allow users to browse without being identified as being online. I would like to emphasize a respect that the privacy of our readers is important. We would <strong>potentially</strong> consider an extension that showed how many people were currently online, but not something that lists usernames and IP addresses. Although, I still don't think that it would be very useful for us. I believe that the information on the homepage shows that we are active as an organization even during times when there is a low volume of edits. [[User:Dustin Phillips|Dustin Phillips]] ([[User talk:Dustin Phillips|talk]]) 06:42, 6 February 2017 (PST)
:::For ICANNWiki I also would not suggest to show the individual IPs in a potentially very long list. That would be rather disturbing, too much information. To show this in an accumulated single number would be best, like "XXX guests online this hour." I do show this IPs on my brand new wiki only for my personal curiosity. My wiki is not for general public right now, still in the setup process. And even later the number of users will be less than 20 and only locals. So it shows only 1 or 2 IPs, no compare! --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 08:05, 6 February 2017 (PST)
== Questionable links in notifications ==
When I get an email in which a link is displayed, like:
* <nowiki>https://icannwiki.org/index.php?title=Top_Level_Design&diff=next&oldid=406649</nowiki>
than I expect that link to be exactly that and not any different one like that:
* <nowiki>https://u4726946.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=u7htpVbrw4BUaGlJjI1wWdxxl7rxtpd5a3FBZwseKilT8t-2Fz1sUjNqzroAg37Czso0W4Koki8KumLyckWmDsLJMZAtafy0Ub6LPX0zFa60cHle9-2FCJSiFHkERPIJ1T3A_Y0kOdd02bkrjI59M6w0Nv3mRan5W97VZa3ShrGhodB9kxJXKoyScC33oqgdqUuB4jbVX1f-2FMyRVNxqg1AFabrE9IEjp-2FxauRiqsjRyi1FSBmewbJXeBJyryYypgZcq-2B4KMOlbm5Arivrg9edPVyqFgpPDx8fu7bHeeHyzkTMTmoEepmU-2BMSUGmfAWGsl-2FYcNFYf0-2Bl5-2Fo7Pwe2Vm1Qc-2FEh9pWf9EJwPb-2FXK6Xd9Cvfo-3D</nowiki>
The later one is the usual practice of SCAMers. And that's why my email client warns me of those kind of mails.
Please stop this privacy invading link fraud.
--[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 17:25, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
:Sendgrid is just an email platform to manage and track emails. I don't think there is a reason worry here, if the full URL is displayed then the email will become cluttered without providing anything meaningful. And you can always check the URL by hovering over it (or long press on smartphone). [[User:Apuw|Apuw]] ([[User talk:Apuw|talk]]) 13:29, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
::Your answer is irrelevant to my arguments and misleading. Are You in any way involved in the decision to funnel the notification mails from ICANNWiki through sendgrid anyway? --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 13:36, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
:::I am not connected to ICANNwiki. I was just trying to say that this is not a scam technique but just a way to track emails. [[User:Apuw|Apuw]] ([[User talk:Apuw|talk]]) 02:21, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
::::Your "argument" is still misleading. It is still not relevant to my question. You mix up two different facts.
* The URL is not the URL of ICANWiki but of an external "service" that - in this case - is used to track the emails.
* The URL that is actually used, is not displayed in the mail text. Another URL which '''should''' be used, is displayed (in this case the URL that is eventually used after the tracking-"service" has collected the data which are potentially used to breach the users privacy). It is this element, the second one, that is a deception. This deception '''is''' a SCAM technique. The SCAM here is, to disguise the fact, that the users data are collected for an undisclosed purpose. --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 10:40, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi [[User:Manorainjan]], We have evaluated the issue of concern and we do not believe that using SendGrids link-tracking features is link fraud. This is a standard service provided by email platforms. However, we take our users privacy seriously and in light of the concerns you have raised, we reviewed our use of the "click tracking" and have made a decision to discontinue its use for emails sent from activity on the icannwiki.org website.
The emails you receive from icannwiki.org will no longer contain these links. I hope this resolves the issue in your mind.
--[[User:Dustin Phillips|Dustin Phillips]] ([[User talk:Dustin Phillips|talk]]) 21:15, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:I could legitimately argue, that obviously the standard procedure of SendGrids link-tracking features is to use link fraud. But, since You discontinued to use this "feature" for emails sent by activity, I shall call this case closed and thank You for seriously reviewing Your use of link tracking. ;-) --[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 22:52, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
== Can I add some template? ==
I think we need more template. Best [[User:Heiga|Heiga]] ([[User talk:Heiga|talk]]) 11:27, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
===Your contributions are welcome!===
Hi [[User:Heiga]],  What kind of templates would you like to add? [[User:Dustin Phillips|Dustin Phillips]] ([[User talk:Dustin Phillips|talk]]) 17:05, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
:I will add some warn template it help for article to be create successfully or good article. [[User:Heiga|Heiga]] ([[User talk:Heiga|talk]]) 08:17, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 08:17, 15 September 2018

Babel

I have added the categorization function in to the people template for country - so you don't need to add a the category country as it will populate automatically. Best, MarkDilley 2011

Awesome Ray 2011
But it does not automatically put this pages themselves in higher categories! Therefore all language categories show up in the Special:UncategorizedCategories and are not connected to the root category Category:Browse. --Manorainjan 14:22, 3 February 2017 (PST)

New Wiki for icannwiki with indonesian language

Mostly people from indonesian active an internet, so I can offers to editing with indonesian language. It may easy for understanding about people from indonesian. :)Can you create wiki? Mbrt (talk) 07:08, 15 October 2016 (PDT)

I'm interest

I want to join the team for icann wiki are in the Indonesian. I can offers for some people to learn how to use wiki. Can you give me a bureaucrat? :) thanks Mbrt (talk) 08:11, 15 October 2016 (PDT)

Who is online?

What about a display of this on the front page of the Community portal?

Which would require to install mw:Extension:WhosOnline... --Manorainjan 05:54, 5 February 2017 (PST)

I'm not entirely convinced this is a needed addition to our site. What is the value of this extension? Jackie Treiber (talk)

I would not call it needed, rather useful. Obviously this wiki is not one of those where the daily edit-count is very high. There are prolonged periods when nobody is editing anything at all. But it is likely that people are reading the wiki. At least we do hope, it is an interesting read for many. Without any visible indicator that something is going on, one could think, it is a dead, closed or abandoned wiki which would be in sharp contrast to ICANN-related matters in general. This extension does not only show accounts of people who are editing. For that there would be Special:ActiveUsers a list of accounts from which edits came in the last 30 days. WhosOnline shows merely who was logged in in the last hour. One can configure if IP (not logged in readers) will be shown as well. --Manorainjan 11:55, 5 February 2017 (PST)
I understand where you are coming from, but I do not think this is a feature that we will add to the wiki. I would prefer to allow users to browse without being identified as being online. I would like to emphasize a respect that the privacy of our readers is important. We would potentially consider an extension that showed how many people were currently online, but not something that lists usernames and IP addresses. Although, I still don't think that it would be very useful for us. I believe that the information on the homepage shows that we are active as an organization even during times when there is a low volume of edits. Dustin Phillips (talk) 06:42, 6 February 2017 (PST)
For ICANNWiki I also would not suggest to show the individual IPs in a potentially very long list. That would be rather disturbing, too much information. To show this in an accumulated single number would be best, like "XXX guests online this hour." I do show this IPs on my brand new wiki only for my personal curiosity. My wiki is not for general public right now, still in the setup process. And even later the number of users will be less than 20 and only locals. So it shows only 1 or 2 IPs, no compare! --Manorainjan 08:05, 6 February 2017 (PST)

Questionable links in notifications

When I get an email in which a link is displayed, like:

  • https://icannwiki.org/index.php?title=Top_Level_Design&diff=next&oldid=406649

than I expect that link to be exactly that and not any different one like that:

  • https://u4726946.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=u7htpVbrw4BUaGlJjI1wWdxxl7rxtpd5a3FBZwseKilT8t-2Fz1sUjNqzroAg37Czso0W4Koki8KumLyckWmDsLJMZAtafy0Ub6LPX0zFa60cHle9-2FCJSiFHkERPIJ1T3A_Y0kOdd02bkrjI59M6w0Nv3mRan5W97VZa3ShrGhodB9kxJXKoyScC33oqgdqUuB4jbVX1f-2FMyRVNxqg1AFabrE9IEjp-2FxauRiqsjRyi1FSBmewbJXeBJyryYypgZcq-2B4KMOlbm5Arivrg9edPVyqFgpPDx8fu7bHeeHyzkTMTmoEepmU-2BMSUGmfAWGsl-2FYcNFYf0-2Bl5-2Fo7Pwe2Vm1Qc-2FEh9pWf9EJwPb-2FXK6Xd9Cvfo-3D

The later one is the usual practice of SCAMers. And that's why my email client warns me of those kind of mails.

Please stop this privacy invading link fraud. --Manorainjan 17:25, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Sendgrid is just an email platform to manage and track emails. I don't think there is a reason worry here, if the full URL is displayed then the email will become cluttered without providing anything meaningful. And you can always check the URL by hovering over it (or long press on smartphone). Apuw (talk) 13:29, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
Your answer is irrelevant to my arguments and misleading. Are You in any way involved in the decision to funnel the notification mails from ICANNWiki through sendgrid anyway? --Manorainjan 13:36, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
I am not connected to ICANNwiki. I was just trying to say that this is not a scam technique but just a way to track emails. Apuw (talk) 02:21, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Your "argument" is still misleading. It is still not relevant to my question. You mix up two different facts.
  • The URL is not the URL of ICANWiki but of an external "service" that - in this case - is used to track the emails.
  • The URL that is actually used, is not displayed in the mail text. Another URL which should be used, is displayed (in this case the URL that is eventually used after the tracking-"service" has collected the data which are potentially used to breach the users privacy). It is this element, the second one, that is a deception. This deception is a SCAM technique. The SCAM here is, to disguise the fact, that the users data are collected for an undisclosed purpose. --Manorainjan 10:40, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi User:Manorainjan, We have evaluated the issue of concern and we do not believe that using SendGrids link-tracking features is link fraud. This is a standard service provided by email platforms. However, we take our users privacy seriously and in light of the concerns you have raised, we reviewed our use of the "click tracking" and have made a decision to discontinue its use for emails sent from activity on the icannwiki.org website.

The emails you receive from icannwiki.org will no longer contain these links. I hope this resolves the issue in your mind. --Dustin Phillips (talk) 21:15, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

I could legitimately argue, that obviously the standard procedure of SendGrids link-tracking features is to use link fraud. But, since You discontinued to use this "feature" for emails sent by activity, I shall call this case closed and thank You for seriously reviewing Your use of link tracking. ;-) --Manorainjan 22:52, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Can I add some template?

I think we need more template. Best Heiga (talk) 11:27, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Your contributions are welcome!

Hi User:Heiga, What kind of templates would you like to add? Dustin Phillips (talk) 17:05, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

I will add some warn template it help for article to be create successfully or good article. Heiga (talk) 08:17, 15 September 2018 (UTC)