User talk:Jean william
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.eco page
Greetings, Jean. I have rolled back your edits on the .eco page. ICANNWiki's values encourage us to presume good faith in every edit. That said, ICANNWiki's goal is to be a neutral reference work for the ICANN community. The edits you made to the .eco page were contrary to the facts. There are public records of ICANN's award of the TLD and the subsequent delegation process. There are also public records of the many disputes around planet.ECO's trademark, the WIPO proceeding regarding .eco, and other contested issues surrounding .eco. Those subject areas could be better presented on the page, and I've started to clean up and organize the history of the TLD application process and subsequent proceedings. However, commentary about the fairness or legitimacy of those proceedings diminish ICANNWiki's commitment to fairness and transparency. In addition, it has been repeatedly determined by ICANN and other bodies that planet.ECO's trademark did not preclude, nor does it now invalidate, the delegation of .eco to Big Room Inc. Any representation that planet.ECO is the "owner" of the .eco TLD is simply incorrect.
I'll be continuing to work on the .eco page, and will be sure to preserve and include references to the various controversies surrounding the domain. The history was controversial, and that should be acknowledged and reported. However, I ask that you refrain from presenting planet.ECO's side of the story as fact. Thank you for understanding. --JP
- Greetings to you, JP.
As there are no do overs with our environment, we wasted another 4 years prevailing in litigation brought on by Big Room to control ".ECO" and have us imprisoned, it is obvious we take environmental stewardship and efforts to save our planet very seriously and have found our purpose. We do not have another 10 years+ to waste in proving why our rights are legitimate and why Big Room is illegitimate."
We find it interesting that only after we edited the misspelling of our company name and misleading information on the ICANNwiki ".eco" page, you appeared, rolled back our edits, “encourage us to presume good faith in every edit” yet agree with the way we view the ".eco" page - the "subject areas could be better presented on the page." It is unfortunate and expected that fairness and transparency are lacking from the .eco ICANNwiki page.. However, we are now cautiously encouraged that the information leading to improper conclusion may be corrected.
It is also worth to note that we have reason to believe, any representation that Big Room Inc. is the "owner" of the .eco TLD is simply incorrect, misleading and may even be fraud. Considering you are an attorney working on our the ".ECO" page, please ensure that we, and more importantly, the consumers and the public are provided evidence supporting the properly authorized delegation claim (not designation) of ".eco" to Big Room Inc.
At this point in time, it appears there is no valid owner of the ".eco" TLD. The valid owner of .ECO is shown below:
.ECO® registration 3716170, 5851826, 5813887 and 6220615 are federally registered trademarks of planet .ECO LLC for Advertising and Marketing; Advertisement Agency; Database Management; Design, creation, hosting and maintenance of internet sites for third parties; Hosting of digital content on the Internet; Providing specific information as requested by customers via the Internet (Domain Name related Services).
Please note the name of our company is "planet .ECO®" not Planet.ECO. Jean william (talk) 22:33, 13 January 2021 (UTC), JW
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Thanks Jean for the feedback regarding the inconsistent presentation of your LLC's name. We are of course happy to use your preferred case and spacing for the name. However, I note that your certificate of formation with the CT Secretary of State does not include the circle-R, which is (at least in my experience) not something that one can normally include in a business name.[1]
I understand that your .ECO word mark is registered in the "Advertising agency services; Database management" classes of goods and services.[2] This does not mean that you are the owners of the TLD. As you no doubt recall, your application to register a design mark for "Domain registry operator services featuring the TLD in the mark, in Class 42" was refused registration because it was deemed deceptive.[3] That refusal specifically rejects the notion that planet .ECO could register a trademark for domain registry services without a Registry Agreement between planet .ECO and ICANN:
The applicant is advised that even if the applicant’s application were still pending at ICANN, this application would not be approved for publication. See TMEP §1215.02(d)(iii). [If] there was evidence of record that the applicant’s ICANN application were still pending, action on this application would be suspended until the applicant submitted evidence that it had entered into a currently valid Registry Agreement with ICANN, designating the applicant as the Registry Operator for the TLD identified by the mark. See id.[3]
The cited section of the Trademark Manual of Examining Procedure states that registration will be refused as de facto deceptive if the applicant cannot provide evidence that it has entered into a Registry Agreement to provide registry services for the TLD included in the mark.[4] In short, you were refused trademark registration because such registration would have deceived the public into believing that you were the registry of record for the .eco domain.
The refusal also notes that decisions made by ICANN have nothing to do with the Patent and Trademark Office's work, and neither entity has jurisdiction over the other. Your cannot make your trademark ownership "mean something" in reference to ICANN's application and delegation processes by force of argument or will. ICANN and IANA records make it clear that Big Room's application was accepted, and that the .eco domain was delegated to Big Room Inc.[5][6]
Your efforts to revise this history are counterproductive to the goals of the wiki. Since my original message, I have learned that you have been suspended from this wiki more than once for making similar attempts to edit material relating to the .eco domain. I have locked editing permissions on the .eco page to admins only. Respectfully, should you continue to make edits to the wiki that attempt to contradict established facts, your account privileges will again be revoked. --JP