User:MarkWD/Interviews

Batch 2

Anand Vora

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYarcEL18Ao

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,840 So I like giving this example... so I do partnerships to strategic partnerships.

2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:16,040 So when you're trying to explain what a registry is to say a nonprofit organization or an association,

3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,000 what I say is think of us as the manufacturer of Coca-Cola.

4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,200 If you want to buy a kind of Coke, Coca-Cola doesn't have stores, right?

5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,800 You have to go to Walmart, Safeway, 7-Eleven.

6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,960 We're similar.

7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:39,640 We manufacture .org domains, but you can't buy from us.

8 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:46,480 We sell them through partners like GoDaddy, Namecheap, Spockbuns of the world.

9 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:51,640 So our customers are the registrars and the resellers.

10 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Our users are the end users: nonprofit organizations, mission driven organizations,

11 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,560 individual's profit with a purpose.

12 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:05,880 So in that sense, that's the uniqueness of, we sit here, but then we work across.

13 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:11,240 We are one or two steps removed from the end user, but that's why it becomes a pretty tight knit community

14 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,720 of working with partners, working with the channel.

Bibek Silwal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtVocIry1u8

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Jessica Rivers: Where do you think Universal Acceptance adoption is happening most successfully?

2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:12,720 Bibek Silwal: Well, we do have really good examples, specifically in India. So the program I organized, I presented a

3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:19,920 case study. And so it's not just about the language, it's about the primary and secondary effects it

4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:27,360 has in all of the ecosystem, including the enhancements of socioeconomics or the creation of jobs,

5 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,640 ownership of the content on the Internet and a lot of things. So, you know, as of now, people are not

6 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,520 taking it very seriously, specifically the technical people, but, you know, in the coming three or four

7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:43,840 years with this effort in the ICANN community, I think, you know, the Universal Acceptance rate

8 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,320 would be higher in applications and websites.

Brian King

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,340 I think the biggest problem that ICANN needs to solve now,

2 00:00:04,340 --> 00:00:06,780 and has been the biggest problem they've needed to solve

3 00:00:06,780 --> 00:00:11,780 for the last five years and one month or so, is WHOIS;

4 00:00:13,260 --> 00:00:16,020 or you can hear it called "registration data".

5 00:00:16,020 --> 00:00:20,760 We worked... I representative IPC constituency on the EPDP,

6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,160 which worked for three or four years straight

7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,900 on trying to solve the issue of how to access who is data,

8 00:00:28,900 --> 00:00:33,500 how to collect, store, process, and then disclose

9 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:37,820 who is data to IP owners, law enforcement,

10 00:00:37,820 --> 00:00:42,740 in a way that respected, I might say,

11 00:00:42,740 --> 00:00:45,300 didn't violate the rights of the data subjects

12 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:47,060 or the domain name registrants,

13 00:00:47,060 --> 00:00:50,180 but really that respected those rights

14 00:00:50,180 --> 00:00:52,980 and ensured that those rights were maintained.

15 00:00:52,980 --> 00:00:56,540 And it didn't go well, I'll be candid with you.

16 00:00:56,540 --> 00:00:58,700 It was hard work.

17 00:00:58,700 --> 00:01:00,060 There were a lot of interests

18 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:03,580 that were working across purposes in the EPDP.

19 00:01:03,580 --> 00:01:07,540 And I regret, maybe I even lament the fact

20 00:01:07,540 --> 00:01:10,100 that we didn't get it done.

21 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:14,100 And now the work kind of sits with ICANN,

22 00:01:15,220 --> 00:01:20,220 the organization and the board to do some things.

23 00:01:20,340 --> 00:01:22,580 They're doing some studies and some pilot programs

24 00:01:22,580 --> 00:01:26,180 to try to get more information about possible ways

25 00:01:26,180 --> 00:01:28,580 that it could work going forward.

26 00:01:28,580 --> 00:01:32,460 So yes, the EPDP group that I was a part of

27 00:01:32,460 --> 00:01:35,700 passed some policy recommendations.

28 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:38,500 Most of them, at least about half of them

29 00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:40,300 didn't have consensus within the groups.

30 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:43,820 I don't know how they got sent to the ICANN board,

31 00:01:43,820 --> 00:01:45,620 but the board doesn't know what to do

32 00:01:45,620 --> 00:01:47,100 with those recommendations.

33 00:01:47,100 --> 00:01:52,100 So they came up with this system as kind of a skin

34 00:01:52,340 --> 00:01:56,540 in like the software technology sense of a platform

35 00:01:56,540 --> 00:01:59,780 that they want to try out and see if it works,

36 00:02:00,940 --> 00:02:04,260 a voluntary kind of request the data

37 00:02:04,260 --> 00:02:06,060 and let the registrar figure out

38 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:08,220 if they're going to provide the data within the system

39 00:02:08,220 --> 00:02:09,820 kind of framework.

40 00:02:09,820 --> 00:02:12,340 But in my opinion, if that's going to work,

41 00:02:12,340 --> 00:02:15,700 it needs a lot more policy requirements around it

42 00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:19,620 and safeguards and things that it doesn't have.

43 00:02:19,620 --> 00:02:21,700 So we're going to encourage people to use it.

44 00:02:21,700 --> 00:02:24,980 It's a good, I'm glad that ICANN's doing something

45 00:02:25,060 --> 00:02:27,060 trying this as a pilot.

46 00:02:27,060 --> 00:02:30,100 My concern is that we don't know what data

47 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:33,500 it's going to generate or how the board's going to

48 00:02:34,900 --> 00:02:37,500 take that data, how that data is going to inform

49 00:02:37,500 --> 00:02:39,660 what the board decides to do.

50 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:43,900 So I'm a little skeptical about, if it's a success,

51 00:02:43,900 --> 00:02:47,100 then we don't get to go come up with a policy

52 00:02:47,100 --> 00:02:49,420 that is better.

53 00:02:49,420 --> 00:02:52,420 And if it fails, my concern is that,

54 00:02:52,460 --> 00:02:54,060 well, they're going to say,

55 00:02:54,060 --> 00:02:56,580 this type of system isn't going to be successful,

56 00:02:56,580 --> 00:02:58,060 so let's not build one.

Claire Craig

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:16,000 So for us in the Caribbean particularly, we have a different model because if you look at the US, it's a commercial model for them because it is a large nation and there are lots of people.

2 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:32,000 But we have small nations and Internet service providers are very competitive and because we have small nations, most of our Internet providers transfer their data through Miami.

3 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:47,000 So it means that for a small country, let's say like Trinidad and Tobago, if you are in Trinidad with me and I am talking to you, my data has to go to Miami to be transferred to you.

4 00:00:47,000 --> 00:01:10,000 That becomes a very expensive proposition. So what I'm trying to do is really convince governments and other stakeholders of the importance of collaborating and having an Internet exchange point in the country because if you transit via the Internet exchange point, it's peering and it's settlement free data.

5 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:25,000 So the exciting thing about it is that you're really doing things for the end users and for the citizens and residents of the country and lowering the cost of doing business on the Internet. So that's it in a nutshell.

David Morar

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,000 The potential biggest reason for that is that I think in the US, a lot of folks are more geared towards a status quo perspective in terms of legislation, right, like, ah, let's not let's kind of keep government out of it.

2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,000 And we can deal with it or whatever.

3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:35,000 And also more of an entrepreneurial slash corporatist view of things, whereas in the EU, you know, historically, most of those countries have had strong governments or have had a perspective that said, well, you know, the things should be regulated.

4 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:42,000 And that's one, the second reason is in the EU, it's much easier to put up legislation.

5 00:00:42,000 --> 00:01:03,000 It's much easier to pass it. It's complicated. It's long. It's very sort of like admin heavy. It's very bureaucratic, but there's a path for it. And you and, you know, politics are involved, obviously, but it's a lot more a thing of process, whereas in the United States process is important, but it's all of its politics.

Emily Taylor

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,440 it's understandable that, say, the DNS industry wants to draw bright lines around like,

2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:14,000 we don't do this, we do do that. In reality, the experiences are much more mushy one.

3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:21,600 And so the DNS will be the carrier for a lot of things that you could argue are content related

4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:27,920 issues. But actually, so we're doing some research on, you know, why consumers fall for link based

5 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:33,360 scans. And actually, the domain name plays a big part in that, you know, because it's part when

6 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:39,040 you're looking for what we call, you know, you're in a hurry, you're living your life. There's this

7 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:44,880 sort of concept of selective scrutiny that you, you're sort of just looking for clues, you don't

8 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:50,720 want to get into it. But you're looking for clues about whether something's legit, and actually

9 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:58,320 names are really important in that. And so yes, although the domain name itself might be quite

10 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:05,520 innocent, it might be happening at different levels, or that the whole thing might be happening at a

11 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:13,360 hosting level at the application layer. Actually, the domain name is involved. It doesn't mean that

12 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:19,680 it's the complete solution. But I feel like the cutting off is useful to a certain extent. But

13 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:25,200 if it's cutting you off from the policy conversation, then you're going to end up with really stupid

14 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,800 policy answers that don't understand. And you don't get the chance to engage in those policy

15 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:38,880 solutions, it gets very sledgehammer type thing. So obviously a comforting narrative for those

16 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:45,520 within ICANN. But the risk of it is that the conversation just goes around you. And you're

17 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:51,120 not involved in it, because you're just, you're actually like, you're king canute in the waves,

18 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:58,640 commanding the waves to go back. And actually, you've developed this way of thinking and talking

19 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:04,480 to each other, which makes perfect sense to each other. And we all agree. But actually, nobody,

20 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:11,360 if you took a consumer into that environment, they'd be like, what's wrong with you? So it

21 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:17,520 doesn't make it is completely disconnected with from the consumer's experience. And I think that's

22 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:24,000 a problem. And it's actually a problem for the ICANN process, as much as the situation itself.

23 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:31,840 Because actually, a lot of other government led organizations are really keen to take up the

24 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,920 slack.

Emmanuel Vitus

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 But when you take the non-commercial stakeholder group,

2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,240 now most of them are volunteers,

3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,000 not like the BC or the GAC,

4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,800 where people are actually doing that as their daily job.

5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,320 And I mean, they job that pay their bills

6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:18,520 and those kind of thing.

7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,480 So they actually put much more effort into it.

8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:23,920 And they have the resources,

9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,920 like the business community has the resources,

10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,840 people are their lawyers for their organizations

11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,680 and those kind of things.

12 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,600 So they represent an interest

13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,360 that actually really matches their profession as well.

14 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,960 So it's much more easier for them.

15 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,120 But if you take the non-commercial stakeholder group,

16 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,840 usually people are volunteers and the volunteer fatigue,

17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,720 especially during the COVID,

18 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,360 we felt this because spending hours of meeting,

19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,840 let me give a basic example.

20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,560 Like today I finished the ideal meeting before I was sleeping

21 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,240 for most of the meeting before the call came in,

22 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,560 but that call was 90 minutes call.

23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,640 And that call I've been actually following

24 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,160 that EPDP for a year and two months now.

25 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,000 So every week I have to spend at least that 90 minutes

26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,520 before you later digest everything,

27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,280 get back to your stakeholder group.

28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:23,280 So, well, if you don't have that interest in the topic

29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,480 or you don't have that volunteerism,

30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,880 I mean, you cannot, I mean, you cannot,

31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,680 let's be honest, if somebody is doing a daily job

32 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,520 that pay his bills, he will not take 90 minutes.

33 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,680 With, I mean, in the middle of the week,

34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,080 supports his work and work on, I mean, an EPDP

35 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,440 and those kind of things.

36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,560 At the beginning, due to the huge number of volunteers,

37 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,160 it was easy, but with COVID because during those days,

38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,000 let's say for example, the travel support was one of those,

39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,320 how do you call it, element that stimulates people

40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,320 to say that, oh, okay, at least it's like a gratitude

41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,120 to you for what you have been doing and those kind of things.

42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,080 But with COVID, I mean, the whole life has really,

43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,800 really changed, is now that a lot of people

44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:24,880 are coming back, because I don't know for the other groups,

45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,400 but for the, how do you call it?

46 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,560 Non-commercial stakeholder group,

47 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,960 what we do have is the CROP, which is a travel support

48 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,480 that we use to allow community members who have been active.

49 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,320 Maybe they are not at the leadership position,

50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,240 but they have been active into this whole policy work

51 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,800 or the whole academician.

52 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,360 We try it as much as possible to bring them

53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,120 to the meeting at least once in a year and those kind of things.

54 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,600 So it's kind of a recognition that we do,

55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,720 that's the only recognition at the non-commercial stakeholder group.

Lauren Tussey

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously interested in the next round and, and following that quite closely. When that came out, you know, in 2000, what was it 14, I was like the part of all of that and it was a huge, huge part of my job.

2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,000 So I'm, I'm interested to see how that pans out and what happens in the next round.

3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:36,000 You know, I'm kind of disappointed on the timeframe, like the timeline. I think everyone is, you know, we've done this before it's been over 10 years, or almost 10 years, and it'll be almost 12 years, you know, when they expect to have it come out and that's a long time.

4 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:42,000 And I'm interested to understand, you know, what we're going to expect as far as the applications that are going to come in.

5 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:59,000 I've seen all the brands that have that applied last time, and none of them were successful. I don't think any brand that was that had their TLD was successfully used it we've keep seeing brands that are letting them drop, you know, they don't want they

6 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:05,000 don't want to continue with their application or they're they're letting the TLD drop so I'm interested to know.

7 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Are, are we going to see more brands, a lot of brands 10 years ago didn't even know that it was an option.

8 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:22,000 And so are we going to see an influx of these. And then also with this web three stuff, you know, like how does that impact the applications and what can be submitted.

9 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 I think ICANN has been very.

10 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:35,000 It's been very blurry as far as what if they're going to allow the same applications for the four names that have already been registered in what three to my names.

11 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:40,000 There's like what about this conflict and this between that.

12 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:57,000 The other thing, you know, that I'm interested in is fraud. I know that sounds weird but as registrars I've seen an uptick in fraud and it's something that I try to talk about with other registrars and they all seem to have the same problems as we do,

13 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:12,000 you know, fraud is, is getting worse we're seeing more account takeovers, we're seeing some issues with, you know, testing cards and things like that. And I would love to be able to talk more with different registrars and see like how can we come up with a better

14 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:19,000 solution that we can all, you know, how can we maybe exchange ideas and what's working what's not.

15 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:33,000 I don't think I'm the we're the only ones that are having these issues so usually it comes they come together right somebody purchases a domain name uses stolen credit card and then they use that domain name to do abusive things.

16 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:47,000 And then, you know, eventually, the charge is disputed, the domain gets suspended, and it's a lot of time and resources and money, you know, and it's very.

17 00:02:47,000 --> 00:03:02,000 It's increasing in the industry. And we've also seen an increase in account takeovers where somehow somebody got someone's username and password somewhere else and then they start testing it on different registrars websites and they see if they can get into these

18 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,000 accounts and then they start making purchases and things like that that are all fraudulent.

19 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:17,000 So, that's what I mean with fraud not necessarily just like abuse but, you know, fraudulent fraudulent charges, I guess.

Mariana Marinho

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,400 I think it's important to know that this is not a project, it's not an ICANN only initiative,

2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:15,360 you know, it's really like bringing together partners to advance the internet and expand

3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:22,720 the internet in Africa. So we were just like, each project, you know, we have different

4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,480 stakeholders involved and different partners and I think that's what

5 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:36,400 it's exciting about it, you know, because like our impact is much greater than ICANN's only impact

6 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:44,560 and really like for us as a group really trying to move the needle, you know, and

7 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:52,800 make a positive impact and but like I think this program also this like the coalition work

8 00:00:52,800 --> 00:01:00,560 has always also the way I see it being in a different way of approaching projects in ICANN

9 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,280 and we're working much more collaborative within like our different functions, you know,

10 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:11,760 because everything that we do it's not only psych projects that would be, oh, our ENIT

11 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:23,040 engineering and information technology team is putting ICANN, it's like putting the MRS

12 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:34,800 in like, you know, infrastructure somewhere and it's like it usually like involves the

13 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:40,240 African engagement team or the Middle Eastern engagement team and but like now we're also

14 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:47,840 working like with COMS and like bringing other people to really raise the profile, you know, and

15 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:56,640 and like make sure that that initiative is disseminating in a different way that it's like

16 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:05,520 beyond the ICANN regular communication channels but like for now it's like this is like the first

17 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:13,840 coalition of this kind that ICANN is really leading, you know, like leading in a way that

18 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:19,760 is like putting the seed money, it's the seed resources that we're like, okay, we think we see

19 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:25,280 a void here, you know, it's like we see that it's opportunity for coordination and collaboration

20 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:37,200 within this sphere, let's like put together Secretariat, you know, and resources and like work

21 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,480 with our stakeholders to see what we can accomplish and we are going to be doing that for

22 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,360 the next like two years and that's a point also to reassess, it's like is everyone else

23 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:54,960 seeing value on this, you know, it's like and if it is, let's continue to work with partners on that

24 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:00,320 but it's not the idea that this is something that ICANN will do regardless of the outcome,

25 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,880 you know, we really need to see our partners coming on board and

26 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:13,840 expanding and we hope to be, we're going to be exploring if it makes sense to expand this

27 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,840 for to other regiments as well.

Natalia Filina

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 As Secretary, so I'm helping a chair of URALO, it's European ICAN region.

2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:15,000 We are caring about bringing an interest of end users to policy development persons of ICAN.

3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:27,000 And we are caring about connections with some organizations and individual members in European region.

4 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,000 So we try to gather information about activities.

5 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,000 We are asking about feedback and input for policy questions.

6 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:45,000 And we do a lot of outreach engagement work, many, many capacity building work, etc.

7 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,000 I try to help, don't disturb my URALO chair.

8 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:58,000 And I help build this very difficult construction of our relationship.

Olof Nordling

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,000 They were all the same, but I think that what happened during the years was that we were seriously understaffed at the very beginning.

2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,000 So those were the hectic, hectic, hectic meetings.

3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Doesn't mean they weren't fun, but it was stretching it and a lot of running around and a lot of...

4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Well, we got told off as a group and as individuals by the community for not being able to cope.

5 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:46,000 And of course that was addressed, which makes it so that at the end of the final years,

6 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:59,000 that I attended too, there was a lot smoother sailing, if I can say so, and a lot of better understanding

7 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:05,000 because there was more time to share and have discussions with others

8 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:15,000 without having to run to and fro between various meetings which you couldn't follow really in the proper way as it was in the very beginning.

Phillip Marano

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,000 When people ask me because like, you know, after 10 years or so, you tend to get a little jaded and people are like, well, how do you still go?

2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:16,000 And my consistent answer is to basically protect the UDRP. It's the uniform domain name dispute resolution policy.

3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:28,000 I use it in my day to day job to take down abusive domain names and I'm a panelist at the World Intellectual Property Organization, so I help decide those disputes.

4 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:36,000 And there's, you know, really not that many of us left. I feel like if we were all to just pack it in and say, oh, we're not getting anything done here.

5 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:49,000 That policy would very quickly suffer and then, you know, it's currently one of the most effective tools we have and for that to go away would be a real shame so stick around to help protect that.

6 00:00:49,000 --> 00:01:04,000 I was going to say recently, but it was several years ago at this point where it was opened up for a policy review and you had positions, very extreme positions in that working group that basically said, we don't need this anymore.

7 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:13,000 I mean, most reasonable people said, yeah, it's working well, like we shouldn't change a lot, blah, blah, blah, but there were a few that said, yeah, we hate this thing, let's get rid of it.

8 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:19,000 So you need to counterbalance, you need to be present to counterbalance voices like that.

Batch 1

Amr Elsadr

In this interview, Amr Elsadr outlines the roles he has undertaken during his ICANN journey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McuNTPTasj4

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,000 I was a member of the non-commercial stakeholder group in the GNSO, and you know, that's supposed to be the home of civil society, academics, you know, not-for-profit organizations, that kind of thing.

2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:21,000 I got involved in several policy issues over the years.

3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:27,000 My main focus was on GTLD registration data and privacy and GTLD registration data.

4 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:36,000 So most recently, I was a member of the EPDP team that was supposed to bring who is policy into compliance with GDPR.

5 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:50,000 I was a member of the GNSO Council for a while, and I helped author, I think, a lot of the GNSO's operating procedures and working group guidelines that are still in use today.

6 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:59,000 They ended over the years, but a lot of what we did, what I contributed to still exists.

7 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:08,000 I was also on staff for a short period. I was on the policy team working for Marika Konings, if you know her.

8 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:16,000 So yeah, that was about a year, but it didn't work out as great as I would have hoped it would.

9 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:30,000 And since then, I've been doing consulting work for contracted parties. I also got a job with a back-end registry operator for a while, but I'm doing independent consulting again now.

Danko Jevtovic

In this interview, Danko Jevtovic shares some of the history of the domain names industry in Serbia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGlJ85_T5PM

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,000 It was a longer way than actually I was at the first I can meeting because I used to be a techie and an entrepreneur and a partner in Internet Service Provider firm in Serbia.

2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:26,000 And we had a problem of domain names, because it was that you use domain names, but there was no organization behind that kind of; it was very difficult to register a domain name.

3 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:37,000 You have one domain name for a legal entity zone. And in a way we saw in our business that if you want to grow, we need the more local content to bring people to do it to Serbian content.

4 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:42,000 And domain names are enablers to do for people to get to the content.

5 00:00:42,000 --> 00:01:03,000 And that's how I got you into this story. And it was, we started the 90s, 96, even beginning of year 2000, end of 2000, in these years, a lot of things happened in Serbia, political changes, and we saw that probably Yugoslavia will fully dissolved

6 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:24,000 But domain names are still very interesting thing. So I got involved, and I wrote something that I named "Danko's Paper" about how domain names in the new Yugoslavia, now Serbia, should be you know regulated by having a government-independent NGO that will run that for the benefit of the

7 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Unitarian users in Serbia. And I, I was one of the people who actually, you know, delivered on that and we created this organization.

8 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:47,000 And so that got me hooked. And at that time I can approve the tariffs for Serbia but there was mostly related, connected to the local environment here was on the Board.

Kenny Huang

In this interview, Kenny Huang describes the roles he assumes in the ICANN community.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsXDhp1HwCs

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,520 Do I have a different kind of role in ICANN?

2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,200 Talking about recent roles,

3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,240 yeah, I'm the chair of CCPDP4 of ccNSO,

4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,640 and ccPDP4, that's responsible for modeling

5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,720 IDN and ccTLD policy,

6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,520 and we try to develop IDN and ccTLD policy,

7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,480 especially to the variant management,

8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,880 and talking about string similarity,

9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,120 talking about retirement policy

10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,360 that's going to happen in the ccTLD regime.

11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,240 And also, I'm the co-Chair of

12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,640 Label Generation Panel, Chinese label generation panel,

13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,880 let's develop the label generation rule for ICANN.

15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:54,560 And I also, in terms of the other constituency,

16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,760 I work in for the numbers of community,

17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,080 and I'm the secretary council of APNIC,

18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,840 and also I was the Address Council for ASO,

19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,720 (Address Support Organization),

20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,880 that's part of ICANN constituencies.

Mason Cole

In this interview, Mason Cole narrates his journey within the ICANN community while highlighting historical aspects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKlbvltek68

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,660 Oh, well, I've been involved in ICANN since the year 2000, that was my first ICANN meeting

2 00:00:05,660 --> 00:00:13,800 was ICANN number eight in Marina Del Rey {e.n.: it was actually ICANN 7}, where I recall that we could fit everybody

3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,120 in the ICANN meeting into one hotel meeting room.

4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:27,120 And now, of course, you know, we've got convention centers and multiple hotels and, you know,

5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,760 the thousands of people involved.

6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:36,280 So it was a different animal when I got involved back in the year 2000, but I first got involved

7 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:45,280 because I was helping a company launch itself, a company called Snap Names, and there was

8 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,960 no service at the time that would backorder domain names or otherwise make them available

9 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,560 when they became, you know, when they deleted back into availability.

10 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,160 And so I got involved with that company.

11 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:04,480 And then it's funny because I was not impressed with ICANN as an organization at first, because

12 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,840 I thought they were really wound up in policy and procedures and everything else.

13 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,600 They really didn't care about outcomes that much.

14 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:20,880 But the longer I got involved in the ICANN sphere, the more I understood why the ICANN

15 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,560 model was valuable.

16 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:28,680 And the next thing you know, I'm involved with a Registrar Stakeholder Group.

17 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,440 And I was Chair of the registrar stakeholder group for a while.

18 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,640 And then I was a GNSO Counsilor for a while.

19 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,880 And then I was the first GNSO liaison to the GAC.

20 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,360 And now I'm Chair of the Business Constituency.

21 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:49,160 So, you know, my active involvement in ICANN has gone back for, you know, well more than

22 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,480 a decade now, you know, pushing two decades.

Prudence Malinki

In this interview, Prudence Malinki discusses the importance of the social aspect of the ICANN community.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Lud7415gA

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,880 The domain sector is such a vibrant, sociable sector.

2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Everyone, even people who are competing,

3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,200 they also will sit down and talk and catch up.

4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,480 And there's always gossip, there's always like jokes.

5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,520 There's always something happening and it's vibrant

6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,400 and it's almost alive.

7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,560 It's not just about sessions and sitting in sessions

8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,480 and watching people deliver information.

9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,360 A lot of it is what happens outside of the sessions.

10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,720 It's the socials, it's the networking,

11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,080 it's for getting together, coming up with new business ideas,

12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,040 meeting new people, the next generation coming up

13 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,160 and learning and the older generation

14 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:37,360 and sharing information.

15 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,640 There's like a whole bunch of stuff that happens

16 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,920 outside of the traditional stuff.

Business Constituency

Governmental Advisory Committee. Considers and provides advice on the activities of ICANN as they relate to concerns of governments, particularly matters where there may be an interaction between ICANN's policies and various laws and international agreements or where they may affect public policy issues (ICANN Bylaws).

Top-Level Domain

Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy

Generic Names Supporting Organization. Develops and recommends to the Board substantive policies relating to generic top-level domains and other responsibilities set forth in the Bylaws (ICANN Bylaws).

General Data Protection Regulation

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