Welcome
Hi Dana, Welcome to the site. I work with Ray out in Portland as an editor for the site. Please come to me with any questions regarding formatting/ content/ references/ anything! I know you're going to be tackling the glossary terms, which will be a big help. I'll be putting together some example pages for this type of article- and will hope to have that available to you shortly. Until then, feel free to start figuring things out. Andrew
Testing Testing
Great work at jumping right into a complex article. I feel like you covered a lot of important ground and showed some good decision making with the way you set up the page. One important issue: Reference(s)! I'll expect that you can add references to reflect where you received your information from for this page and all future pages. Great work and initiative. Andrew
So, While I haven't put up the examples of Glossary specific articles yet I have made an important change to your DNSSEC article, I added a section to specifically deal with ICANN's involvement with DNSSEC. While it is not conclusive, it gives some more context to how it affects the rest of ICANN.. I don't know how I feel about the sectioning, with the weird separation bar and all, but it still makes the article even better. So, in lieu of not having more examples, take these edits as making your own article that much more of an "example". Cool. More aids/examples to come tomorrow. Andrew
Sorry to inundate you with all these tips/infos..but one example Glossary article is up. Its for a term that doesn't inspire a huge article. If you haven't noticed the first terms on your list are some of the most demanding and potentially lengthy articles... so the example may come in more handy as you move to the shorter terms. The example is linked off the community portal, keep checking back in the coming days as I try to get more up. Andrew
References
Yes, references will still be needed for the DNSSEC article. Ideally, every section should have at least one reference. I'll be sure to put that article on the example page once it has those. Andrew
It seems that you may need to take a look at how to use reference tags. Check out any other article. the references are done like this.[1]
..that may have been confusing but I'm sure if you look at a page you'll get it.
Great
On point. Also, finally have an article up on the community page about "How to make a good glossary article", and also added your DNSSEC article to the example page of good glossary articles with an explanation of why I think it succeeds. May help you in the future.Andrew
Small Reminder
I appreciate your careful work, still going over your recent articles so I'll let you know if anything else comes- but at this point I only have one small reminder, Please add the category to the bottom of the glossary articles- this is done on your DNSSEC article if you need an example. Thanks! I'll be in touch.
NOTOC
I don't see any reason to get rid of the table in general, Even on short articles when it is inserted (when more than 2 sections are created, I believe) it seems to make the article look more complete. I like it aesthetically, but I'll be sure to ask Ray about it in the future. Thanks for the curiosity! Andrew
We've come to the conclusion that the table of contents should be removed on shorter articles. It makes sense to help navigate big articles but since it is automatically created after a few sections are created it is often unnecessary. So, I think it would make sense to have it on your DNSSEC article but it should be removed on articles the size of the TLD article. Good instinct! Andrew
It's great you asked. I appreciate your desire to reach out to clarify your understanding of the site and improve the site as you see fit. Andrew
Some Notes
I've been following up on your research, though I haven't yet been able to do complete edits to your most recent articles. I've noticed some random discrepancies involving your references. Check out your article for Direct Navigation, the first reference you use to support your definition is [1] - this doesn't seem to be a site with any type of info to support your definition. Also, your article for Domain Kiting references the old glossary page on ICANNWiki.org, you may not have known but the ICANNWiki.org site will eventually be entirely wiped and redirected to the current site we are working on. So, while it is a great place to get started on your definition, please find another site to use as a reference.
You're really doing great work, I'm bringing up points to encourage you to keep up with the high standard you've set. I'll keep coming up with suggestions and tips because I think you're becoming a valuable contributor to the site. Thanks! Andrew
RGP
It stands for the redemption grace period. A basic def. can be found here ICANN.org - I have only had the chance to look at a few articles, as you can see, but I can tell how much work you are putting in to the articles. That is very good to see. These articles are difficult though, I can tell they are difficult to write, and I know they are difficult to edit. I have noticed you have a tendency to repeat yourself throughout an article, which is understandable given your desire to make the definition clear. Still, too much repetition takes away from the article. Ray and I will have to coordinate in order to get you some better feedback, as many of these terms are complex that I will also have to rely on his expertise. We'll be in touch! Andrew
Don't worry about the VWorker deadline. The def. for SO can be found at the same link I gave you. Andrew
Editing Process
Hey Dana, I hope all is well. I know you're waiting to be cleared for payment and more work, and I'm trying to do my best to finish up my edits so that can happen. I am about half way through your batch. So far I have identified a few pages that need more work, either they need reference attention or just felt like certain sections could be stronger. If you wanted to try and fix these while I was finishing the rest of the edits we could get you approved more quickly. Let me know if you have questions, I know some of my notes are a little vague. Andrew
Thanks for the update regarding your vacation, I hope you have a great time - Barcelona is a really incredible city. As far as the edits go, it is not a negative thing at all. I know that we left you pretty much on your own when determining what to include in each article, and you've done a great job overall. However, the part you've completed is only the first step- though it is also the majority of the work. The second step is just clarifying points that could use clarification, or strengthening areas of the articles that feel somewhat weak. I will help you with any questions you may have with this part of the process, and I myself am working to incorporate more material/ formatting and grammar edits/ and identifying areas of improvement. Working together will make this second step better for both of us! Andrew
- I'm sure you're going to have a super time. You may enjoy reading the book Shadow of the Wind since it was set there and you can explore some of the places mentioned in the book, not to mention that it was a great read. Ray
Brief explanations/ feedback can be found next to the articles which will need more work. If the article is totally okay and has been edited, it has my initials (AM) next to it. If there is an issue there is a quick explanation, if these are too vague let me know and I'll clarify what I'm looking for. If there is nothing next to the term then this means I have yet to read and edit the article. I will try to get my colleague to help me finish editing your batch in the next 30 hours. Andrew
How about you just add your initials (in bold maybe) at the end of the comment sentence. Do this whenever you have addressed the issues to the best of your ability. Some of these notes are also for my own reference, so if something doesn't make sense to you (Like Redirect to ___ page) then ask, because it might not be something you are prepared to fix.
Caterina and I have finished editing your articles. We've made notes on the articles that need to be readdressed - be in contact with any questionsAndrew
The changes look good so far. Thanks Andrew
Thanks for all your work on completing the pages, I'll clear you with Ray for payment. I will take care of the remaining issues as I know there isn't much time before you leave on your vacation. You should re-visit the pages I fix after you get back so you will understand the issues before proceeding to another batch. We would be glad to have you work on another 50 articles when you get back, though this time we will likely assign you to "People" articles- which are easier but generally pay less. Let us know when you're back from Barcelona and I will provide you with more details. Have fun, enjoy the Sangria! Andrew
Welcome Back!
I hope the vacation went well, it's good to see you back on the site. Please keep a running list of the articles your working on/complete in your designated section on the articles needed page. I'll likely be editing your articles as you go, and not waiting for you to finish completely. Good to have you back!Andrew
Notice
To all writers: Can you start marking the very top of each and every page you work on with UNDER CONSTRUCTION, when Caterina, Ray, or myself have edited and checked off on the page we will remove it. Thanks! Andrew
UPDATE: We've created an image that will make the "Under Construction" process easier: Please insert [[Image:UnderConstruction.png]] as the first text in every article you make. Thanks for putting up with the notes as we perfect this process. Be well, Stay in touch, Andrew
References Example
Wedding pic
Did you not like my pic of Robert Connelly's wedding? Hi Ray! Sorry, I did not know that you put it there. i uploaded another picture, and noticed another picture uploaded. You can put it back, I like it better. It's just that I did not know where it came from:D Sorry!
Getting Back to you
Sorry I took so long to respond! We do not have a set limit for how large an article should be, we only want to reflect the amount of information available for a person. So, we hope to have AT LEAST a decent paragraph...and then from there it is up to how much information is available. If this person is prolific, works a lot with ICANN, has a long career history, then the article will be longer. If we can only find out where they work, then that is all we have... Does that make sense?
As far as not finding certain information, it is not a problem as long as it is information that can truly not be found! If it's not public knowledge on the Internet then we can't stress about it.Andrew
New
Thanks for the update. I'm just getting back to the site after a long weekend. I'll be sure to begin editing your stuff shortly and report any issues. Andrew
Franky
I think mostly goes by "Frank" ... you can use the "move" command to rename the article Ray Hi Ray! I made the change as you told me, I used the feature "move" - checked how it works and changed it:D Thanks for telling me about this change. User:Dana
Editing People Batch
So I've begun to edit your batch. Please follow along and make the corrections noted in your section of the "Articles Being Worked On" page... So far they mostly have to do with caricature problems/ reference issues. I've come across a bit of copying and pasting already, and although it does seem that you try to make your writing somewhat different than the original some of it has been too similar. Please keep an eye on this. I am removing the table to contents for all normal sized articles. Let me know about any questions you may have.Andrew
Hi! Please do tell me how I fix caricature problems.. If there is no caricature available, what should I do? Thanks, Dana
Technical Difficulties
Can you run a test? Can you try and insert in an external link to a given page, try it on my page: Andrew Merriam, and just insert a link to any external site. You should get the "captcha" box where you type in some garbled words to prove your a human being and then the link should go through. Does this work for you? Can you see the captcha box? One of our writers is not able to see the captcha box so if you could please run this test asap and get back to me on my talk page that'd be great. Thanks! Andrew
Hi!Yes, the capctcha box appears:)
Thanks for doing that captcha test! So, regarding caricatures. If the caricature was on the old site you need to download it (save it to your computer), then upload it on the site, and then include it in the caricature section of the people template. SO! If Barbara Simmons had a caricature on the old site, you would transfer it over just as you did the picture. If she didn't have a picture, then you add in CaricatureComing.jpg (In the field marked caricature in the template) and that will bring up a text box which says exactly that. Make sense? I'm going to keep doing down your list and marking any issues before going back to the ones you've marked as fix. Thanks for your quick attention to these matters! Andrew
Hi! I know how to add caricature, but did not know about "CaricatureComing.jpg" - thanks! I will make the necessary changes!
Great. I'm just going to keep a running list of things to keep in mind for the future, but overall your doing a good job. Holler if any of this needs to be clarifiedAndrew:
- Try to stay neutral calling someone a "visionary entrepreneur" or a "highly skilled expert" can be subjective. It's better to keep it basic unless we know for sure that most people consider the person "visionary" or "highly skilled", that is, just call them an entrepreneur!
- For most people articles the Table of Contents should be removed. It automatically appears after multiple sections are created, but is generally just unnecessary. to remove it write __NOTOC__ at the very bottom of the page. those lines are TWO underscores ( _ ).
- Try to keep the people articles focused on the people themselves and not their companies. The companies should, sooner or later, have their own page so it is unnec. to write about them on the people profile. If what the company does or is known for helps clarify the work the individual is involved in, then please include it. But if it is just general background that doesn't really add anything about how the person is involved, then leave it out.
- In general I think that a person's education should come to the end of their profile. We hope that people use these these profiles to learn about an idnividual before they have a meeting with them, so their education is good background but it is some of the least important stuff. Go with Current work Experience, then Prior Work Experience, Important other things (achievements), then education.
Hi!
- Very small point: When making a header it is best to keep all major words capitalized, so "Professional Experience" would never be "Professional experience".. This is not a big deal and It means nothing for me to fix it, but I get the impression that you are interested in improving all of your written English, so I mention this only for your own personal interest in English. :)
Ok, thanks for the feedback, I will try to keep an objective perspective, I make mistakes sometimes:) I will also add the NOTOC thing. Keep in touch! Dana